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	<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 03:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: VBA and VSTA - The Future? - Shaun Cassells at MyITForum.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>VBA and VSTA - The Future? - Shaun Cassells at MyITForum.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Does this mean the next version of office (2010) will no&#160;longer support VBA macros? &#160; &#160; &#160;&#160;&#160; Looking a little further, I discovered VBA support was removed from MAC&#160;Office 2008 because of the PPC to x86&#160;processor change.&#160; However, the lead programmer for windows says VBA will be returned to next office revision http://www.schwieb.com/blog/2008/05/13/saying-hello-again-to-visual-basic/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Does this mean the next version of office (2010) will no&nbsp;longer support VBA macros? &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Looking a little further, I discovered VBA support was removed from MAC&nbsp;Office 2008 because of the PPC to x86&nbsp;processor change.&nbsp; However, the lead programmer for windows says VBA will be returned to next office revision <a href="http://www.schwieb.com/blog/2008/05/13/saying-hello-again-to-visual-basic/" rel="nofollow">http://www.schwieb.com/blog/2008/05/13/saying-hello-again-to-visual-basic/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: L. Crowe</title>
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		<dc:creator>L. Crowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 21:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I write a lot of Macros via Word 2003 and Visual Basic on an XP machine, which are then used by numerous staff members multiple times a day. Worries about macros being potentially broken by changes in any given OS/Office upgrades (be it in Vista or Mac OSX) certainly slow down company's ability to bring in new machines and roll out new upgrades -- too much testing is needed first, too many little compatibility worries . . . Dropping Visual Basic from Mac Office 2008 just makes things worse. So I'm glad to hear that VB will be coming back in the future -- I'll likely buy Mac Office at least for myself at that time. Until then, I'll stick with older versions of Office or will make sure to the Windows versions via Parallels on my Mac. . .  Many thanks for working on this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I write a lot of Macros via Word 2003 and Visual Basic on an XP machine, which are then used by numerous staff members multiple times a day. Worries about macros being potentially broken by changes in any given OS/Office upgrades (be it in Vista or Mac OSX) certainly slow down company&#8217;s ability to bring in new machines and roll out new upgrades &#8212; too much testing is needed first, too many little compatibility worries . . . Dropping Visual Basic from Mac Office 2008 just makes things worse. So I&#8217;m glad to hear that VB will be coming back in the future &#8212; I&#8217;ll likely buy Mac Office at least for myself at that time. Until then, I&#8217;ll stick with older versions of Office or will make sure to the Windows versions via Parallels on my Mac. . .  Many thanks for working on this!</p>
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		<title>By: SP1 f&#252;r MS Office 2008 Mac erschienen at NETWAYS Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>SP1 f&#252;r MS Office 2008 Mac erschienen at NETWAYS Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] es in Office 2008 nachzur&#252;sten. Es gibt dazu eine offizielle Pressemeldung und einen Blogpost, der die Hintergr&#252;nde [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Back to Basic (Visual Basic) &#124; alexmak.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>Back to Basic (Visual Basic) &#124; alexmak.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 06:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ????? ?? ??????? Office ??? ????????? ???. ? ?????????, ???????????? ????????, ??? ????????? Visual Basic ???????? ? ???? ?? ????????? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ????? ?? ??????? Office ??? ????????? ???. ? ?????????, ???????????? ????????, ??? ????????? Visual Basic ???????? ? ???? ?? ????????? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: currie</title>
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		<dc:creator>currie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 12:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have VMWare Fusion, and can run Windows XP with applications on it for work (particularly Framemaker, Netmeeting, Windows specific tools like VoIP phones, and Office). My company is big on using Word/Excel/Powerpoint.

However, I have found that NeoOffice is quite capable of opening Word/Excel/Powerpoint files and resaving them as Office documents. I have a 2GHz 2GB ram Macbook Duo_core.

The Neooffice site states at http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/en/features.php

Handles Most Excel VBA Macros	NeoOffice includes the Excel macro support developed by Novell's ooo-build project. The ooo-build project is an open source project that continually develops feature enhancements to OpenOffice.org.

And its free too. I urge you to download it with the latest patches and try it. Set its preferences to save as Office format instead of its own format.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have VMWare Fusion, and can run Windows XP with applications on it for work (particularly Framemaker, Netmeeting, Windows specific tools like VoIP phones, and Office). My company is big on using Word/Excel/Powerpoint.</p>
<p>However, I have found that NeoOffice is quite capable of opening Word/Excel/Powerpoint files and resaving them as Office documents. I have a 2GHz 2GB ram Macbook Duo_core.</p>
<p>The Neooffice site states at <a href="http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/en/features.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/en/features.php</a></p>
<p>Handles Most Excel VBA Macros	NeoOffice includes the Excel macro support developed by Novell&#8217;s ooo-build project. The ooo-build project is an open source project that continually develops feature enhancements to OpenOffice.org.</p>
<p>And its free too. I urge you to download it with the latest patches and try it. Set its preferences to save as Office format instead of its own format.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 03:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have commented that despite the short falls of Office 2008, it is selling well.  In my case, I purchased it prior to realizing it had been neutered. I welcome VB's return, I used to use it constantly.  By the way, I am now a two computer user, my old lap top sits at the side of my new one just so I can run what I need to.  Please double your efforts to restore to faithful long term users the tools we trusted would always be available.  Dumbing down a product is never a way to win up grading customers, failing to publicize adequately the neutering of excel prior to its release left me an extremely disillusioned user.  My mouth dropped when I realized I had just spent money on a giant step backwards.  So thank you for for working on bringing it back.  Will it be a software update, or a repurchase?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have commented that despite the short falls of Office 2008, it is selling well.  In my case, I purchased it prior to realizing it had been neutered. I welcome VB&#8217;s return, I used to use it constantly.  By the way, I am now a two computer user, my old lap top sits at the side of my new one just so I can run what I need to.  Please double your efforts to restore to faithful long term users the tools we trusted would always be available.  Dumbing down a product is never a way to win up grading customers, failing to publicize adequately the neutering of excel prior to its release left me an extremely disillusioned user.  My mouth dropped when I realized I had just spent money on a giant step backwards.  So thank you for for working on bringing it back.  Will it be a software update, or a repurchase?</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Norton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 17:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We call DLL's on the PC and shared libraries on the Mac.  Please include declares of frameworks on  in VBA for Mac.  Object parity with PC word objects is also very important.

Anyway to be in on an early release?  We'll sign an NDA...  Thanks! -doug</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We call DLL&#8217;s on the PC and shared libraries on the Mac.  Please include declares of frameworks on  in VBA for Mac.  Object parity with PC word objects is also very important.</p>
<p>Anyway to be in on an early release?  We&#8217;ll sign an NDA&#8230;  Thanks! -doug</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos Le Mare</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos Le Mare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 17:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More than VBA I miss a couple of programs to made Mac Platform a real deal for the enterprise:

1. Visio: There is a very good alternatives in Mac, but they are not binary compatibles with Visio. If port visio is too complicated or expensive, at least consider to create a convertion tool form the binary form to the xml form that run on Mac OS (Universal please)
2. Project: There are good alternatives to Project, but nothing that integrates with Project Server. Even you have a very good compatibility with the binary files, but if you work with Project Server... sorry, no macs allowed. (The web interface requires Internet Explorer, probably because of some activeX controls). At least consider create a web interface wich runs with safari and Firefox....

thanks.

clemare</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More than VBA I miss a couple of programs to made Mac Platform a real deal for the enterprise:</p>
<p>1. Visio: There is a very good alternatives in Mac, but they are not binary compatibles with Visio. If port visio is too complicated or expensive, at least consider to create a convertion tool form the binary form to the xml form that run on Mac OS (Universal please)<br />
2. Project: There are good alternatives to Project, but nothing that integrates with Project Server. Even you have a very good compatibility with the binary files, but if you work with Project Server&#8230; sorry, no macs allowed. (The web interface requires Internet Explorer, probably because of some activeX controls). At least consider create a web interface wich runs with safari and Firefox&#8230;.</p>
<p>thanks.</p>
<p>clemare</p>
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		<title>By: Bryce Glover</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryce Glover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 14:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am only thirteen, yet even I use VBA scripting!  I use it to create a new journal entry by virtually hitting return, inserting a date that won't change, and hitting return again.  I execute this script by hitting the keystroke Option-F7.  It comes in handy.  I don't want to have to have to use Automator's Watch Me Do function to replicate VBA the VBA script macro recording function in Office 2008 for Mac.  So, if you could publish an update to Office '08 as soon as you finish porting VBA scripting to Xcode, that would be great.  It would also be nice if you could make it so that the the little bar under the toolbar woul slide under the toolbar when not in use.  Then, when you mouse over to the toolbar, it would slide out.  It would act kind of like the Dock and the menu bar do when you are in Quick Look'sfull screen mode.  Plus, you could make it a normal toolbar.  Everything counts for user-friendliness.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am only thirteen, yet even I use VBA scripting!  I use it to create a new journal entry by virtually hitting return, inserting a date that won&#8217;t change, and hitting return again.  I execute this script by hitting the keystroke Option-F7.  It comes in handy.  I don&#8217;t want to have to have to use Automator&#8217;s Watch Me Do function to replicate VBA the VBA script macro recording function in Office 2008 for Mac.  So, if you could publish an update to Office &#8216;08 as soon as you finish porting VBA scripting to Xcode, that would be great.  It would also be nice if you could make it so that the the little bar under the toolbar woul slide under the toolbar when not in use.  Then, when you mouse over to the toolbar, it would slide out.  It would act kind of like the Dock and the menu bar do when you are in Quick Look&#8217;sfull screen mode.  Plus, you could make it a normal toolbar.  Everything counts for user-friendliness.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 20:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VBA at the level it will be in the Windows version of Office at that time.

If we truly have to wait until 2010, 2011, or beyond, what have you been doing in Redmond?  Remember when Apple revealed that Mac OS X would run on Intel chip sets?  Three operating systems later, when they made the strategic announcement to switch from Motorola/IBM sets, they had ALREADY wrote Mac OS X to work on the Intel set.  Now how come the MacBU of Microsoft couldn't have thought the same way.  Oh, yeah, you're Microsoft not Apple.  But really, you mean to tell everyone that VBA will still be years away?  Honestly?  You don't have a group of programmers locked-up in a hole and are ready to release it with Office 2008 SP2???  It must be incredibly awkward to show up to work every day and feel like you're making a contribution to the world of computing!

Sorry for the harshness but after being treated like black americans (in the computer OS sense) for so long, you must understand.  We Mac users wouldn't feel this way if you didn't jerk us around.  We'd be happy to use Office if it behaved just like it does on Windows so we can use the product at work AS WELL AS AT HOME AND SCHOOL.  Face it, Apple's Mac OS is not going away so you had better figure this out.

Oh, and your triple shipping numbers relative to Office 2004...guess which operation system continues to grow at about the same rate over the 2004 - 2008 time frame.  So, stoke-up the monkeys in the basement and finish the VBA programming for Office 2008 SP2 to have even a chance of being in the game come 2010, 2011, or beyond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VBA at the level it will be in the Windows version of Office at that time.</p>
<p>If we truly have to wait until 2010, 2011, or beyond, what have you been doing in Redmond?  Remember when Apple revealed that Mac OS X would run on Intel chip sets?  Three operating systems later, when they made the strategic announcement to switch from Motorola/IBM sets, they had ALREADY wrote Mac OS X to work on the Intel set.  Now how come the MacBU of Microsoft couldn&#8217;t have thought the same way.  Oh, yeah, you&#8217;re Microsoft not Apple.  But really, you mean to tell everyone that VBA will still be years away?  Honestly?  You don&#8217;t have a group of programmers locked-up in a hole and are ready to release it with Office 2008 SP2???  It must be incredibly awkward to show up to work every day and feel like you&#8217;re making a contribution to the world of computing!</p>
<p>Sorry for the harshness but after being treated like black americans (in the computer OS sense) for so long, you must understand.  We Mac users wouldn&#8217;t feel this way if you didn&#8217;t jerk us around.  We&#8217;d be happy to use Office if it behaved just like it does on Windows so we can use the product at work AS WELL AS AT HOME AND SCHOOL.  Face it, Apple&#8217;s Mac OS is not going away so you had better figure this out.</p>
<p>Oh, and your triple shipping numbers relative to Office 2004&#8230;guess which operation system continues to grow at about the same rate over the 2004 - 2008 time frame.  So, stoke-up the monkeys in the basement and finish the VBA programming for Office 2008 SP2 to have even a chance of being in the game come 2010, 2011, or beyond.</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas K Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas K Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 02:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not a computer expert, but do use Excel extensively.  My main program, for which VB macros were written by someone who is an expert, is used to produce a product which is posted on the web and which has become important for a large number of users.  We switched from Excel functions to VB macros to carry out the calculations when the base program became too large for Excel to handle (Yes, there is a limit, despite what MS says!)  This program works on both my PC and my Mac, and this is essential.  The lack of support for VB in Office 2008 means that we have no choice but to stick with the older version of Office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a computer expert, but do use Excel extensively.  My main program, for which VB macros were written by someone who is an expert, is used to produce a product which is posted on the web and which has become important for a large number of users.  We switched from Excel functions to VB macros to carry out the calculations when the base program became too large for Excel to handle (Yes, there is a limit, despite what MS says!)  This program works on both my PC and my Mac, and this is essential.  The lack of support for VB in Office 2008 means that we have no choice but to stick with the older version of Office.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 00:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>100% commonality with win office is essential -in terms of both functionality and IDE, etc.  MAcros should be 100% cross platform.   Please do whatever you have to to ensure that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>100% commonality with win office is essential -in terms of both functionality and IDE, etc.  MAcros should be 100% cross platform.   Please do whatever you have to to ensure that.</p>
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		<title>By: satx</title>
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		<dc:creator>satx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 14:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHO REALLY CARES ABOUT VBA?  Get a real scripting language to use.

Here's an idea.  How about porting Outlook to run on OS-X?  What an amazing idea if I may say so myself.  Entourage is a pos.

Get with it MacBU!  Give us the real apps:  OUTLOOK with TLS/SSL

Entourage is crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHO REALLY CARES ABOUT VBA?  Get a real scripting language to use.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an idea.  How about porting Outlook to run on OS-X?  What an amazing idea if I may say so myself.  Entourage is a pos.</p>
<p>Get with it MacBU!  Give us the real apps:  OUTLOOK with TLS/SSL</p>
<p>Entourage is crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Huntley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Huntley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 13:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"So, if you have a dire need for Visual Basic, you can continue to run Mac Office 2004 (it will even run side-by-side with Office 2008)"

But is there any way, when both are installed, to keep Office 2004 apps as the default when double-clicking on documents?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So, if you have a dire need for Visual Basic, you can continue to run Mac Office 2004 (it will even run side-by-side with Office 2008)&#8221;</p>
<p>But is there any way, when both are installed, to keep Office 2004 apps as the default when double-clicking on documents?</p>
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		<title>By: Tyll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 07:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hans wrote: "Please bring the VBA IDE in MacWord to the quality it has in WinWord."

Yes, and please add mouse wheel scrolling to the IDE code window, while you're on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hans wrote: &#8220;Please bring the VBA IDE in MacWord to the quality it has in WinWord.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, and please add mouse wheel scrolling to the IDE code window, while you&#8217;re on it.</p>
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		<title>By: AlanSky</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlanSky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 00:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We use VBA for displaying and managing dialogs within Word and Excel and retrieve information from the document itself or from external data sources (another applications) via applescript in order to modify the document.

Great to hear it's coming back, our users will stick with MacOffice 2004 until then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We use VBA for displaying and managing dialogs within Word and Excel and retrieve information from the document itself or from external data sources (another applications) via applescript in order to modify the document.</p>
<p>Great to hear it&#8217;s coming back, our users will stick with MacOffice 2004 until then.</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 20:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd really like to see an add-in infrastructure that would allow 3rd parties to develop for Mac Office so we Mac folks can use Xobni, or other useful tools that the Windows folks have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d really like to see an add-in infrastructure that would allow 3rd parties to develop for Mac Office so we Mac folks can use Xobni, or other useful tools that the Windows folks have.</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge Desormeaux</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorge Desormeaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm one of the users that bought Office 2008, but as indicated by someone else here, purchase is not proof of quality or satisfaction. Lack of VBA for Excel was crippling for work, but I was willing to give Applescript a chance for personal use. VBA is clunky compared newer scripting languages and will at some point be replaced even in Office for Windows, so maybe learning a different programming language would work out well for me, I figured.

What I missed before deciding to buy was the lack of Solver as well. No, lack of VBA and Solver both makes Excel worthless for finance. Take into account the performance issues, and I'm down to using Pages for word processing and Excel 2004 for number-crunching. I uninstalled Office 2008 with more than a hint of spite.

I've been an early adopter of Office since version 5, but Office 2008 killed my enthusiasm for the product line. I wish you and your team the best, but I'm not planning on buying the next iteration unless reviews of the product are thoroughly positive and guarantee it won't be another waste of money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m one of the users that bought Office 2008, but as indicated by someone else here, purchase is not proof of quality or satisfaction. Lack of VBA for Excel was crippling for work, but I was willing to give Applescript a chance for personal use. VBA is clunky compared newer scripting languages and will at some point be replaced even in Office for Windows, so maybe learning a different programming language would work out well for me, I figured.</p>
<p>What I missed before deciding to buy was the lack of Solver as well. No, lack of VBA and Solver both makes Excel worthless for finance. Take into account the performance issues, and I&#8217;m down to using Pages for word processing and Excel 2004 for number-crunching. I uninstalled Office 2008 with more than a hint of spite.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been an early adopter of Office since version 5, but Office 2008 killed my enthusiasm for the product line. I wish you and your team the best, but I&#8217;m not planning on buying the next iteration unless reviews of the product are thoroughly positive and guarantee it won&#8217;t be another waste of money.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 15:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an operations research analyst, first in the military and now in civilian academia, I've made extensive use of VBA in Excel.  In fact, I consider VBA and Excel combined to be the shining MS product.  About 5 years ago I moved to the MAC and wished I had made the move 20 years ago.  Anyway the lack of VBA in the MAC is a huge mistake.

I actually teach a course in Industrial Engineering focused on building applications in VBA.  Most MBA programs involve spreadsheet-based courses.  With few exceptions, the use of VBA is a big part of these courses.

I am now one of those that run both 2004 and 2008 on the same machine, and the new Excel in the Parallels environment.

The MAC version MUST be as good as the PC version.  Any lessening of the product, such as the decision made for the MAC 2008 will for good reason support the conspiracy theory, which you denied, but I can't help but believe holds some truth to it.

Bottom line: Return FULL functionality to the MAC office suite.  For VBA in Excel, that includes support and the intellisence capabilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an operations research analyst, first in the military and now in civilian academia, I&#8217;ve made extensive use of VBA in Excel.  In fact, I consider VBA and Excel combined to be the shining MS product.  About 5 years ago I moved to the MAC and wished I had made the move 20 years ago.  Anyway the lack of VBA in the MAC is a huge mistake.</p>
<p>I actually teach a course in Industrial Engineering focused on building applications in VBA.  Most MBA programs involve spreadsheet-based courses.  With few exceptions, the use of VBA is a big part of these courses.</p>
<p>I am now one of those that run both 2004 and 2008 on the same machine, and the new Excel in the Parallels environment.</p>
<p>The MAC version MUST be as good as the PC version.  Any lessening of the product, such as the decision made for the MAC 2008 will for good reason support the conspiracy theory, which you denied, but I can&#8217;t help but believe holds some truth to it.</p>
<p>Bottom line: Return FULL functionality to the MAC office suite.  For VBA in Excel, that includes support and the intellisence capabilities.</p>
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		<title>By: mmulert</title>
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		<dc:creator>mmulert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 14:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The requirements for shared Excel macros between PC &#38; Macs in our office is HUGE.
We cannot work without it. We are forced to virtualization w/ Windows Office.
Please accelerate as soon as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The requirements for shared Excel macros between PC &amp; Macs in our office is HUGE.<br />
We cannot work without it. We are forced to virtualization w/ Windows Office.<br />
Please accelerate as soon as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 10:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me the ability in Excel to add a custom function that can call a native C shared library is vital. There is currently no way of doing that in Office 2008. Alternatively you could offer me a native plugin SDK for the Mac, like there is for Windows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me the ability in Excel to add a custom function that can call a native C shared library is vital. There is currently no way of doing that in Office 2008. Alternatively you could offer me a native plugin SDK for the Mac, like there is for Windows.</p>
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		<title>By: Bits und so #90 (Spaß beim Zoll) &#124; Bits und so</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bits und so #90 (Spaß beim Zoll) &#124; Bits und so</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 09:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The return of VBA [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Visual Basic em 2012? &#171; ? Mac²</title>
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		<dc:creator>Visual Basic em 2012? &#171; ? Mac²</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 09:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 08:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After writing my first comment I discussed the prospect of the return of VBA with my colleague. Now I want to add 2 things to the wishlist I posted previously:

- Please bring the VBA IDE in MacWord to the quality it has in WinWord. Though we do most of our VBA programming in WinWord, we always had and  expect to have to solve some cross platform compatibility problems on the Mac side, which used to be a real pain in w98, 2001 and 2004 with their very poor IDE.
- A good macro recorder can give a useful starting point and  speed up the implementation of new ideas to a great extent, even for the most experienced VBA programmer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After writing my first comment I discussed the prospect of the return of VBA with my colleague. Now I want to add 2 things to the wishlist I posted previously:</p>
<p>- Please bring the VBA IDE in MacWord to the quality it has in WinWord. Though we do most of our VBA programming in WinWord, we always had and  expect to have to solve some cross platform compatibility problems on the Mac side, which used to be a real pain in w98, 2001 and 2004 with their very poor IDE.<br />
- A good macro recorder can give a useful starting point and  speed up the implementation of new ideas to a great extent, even for the most experienced VBA programmer.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 07:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use Office 2007 at work, and a Mac Office 2008  at home.  my feature requests:  

- more consistency in formatting between 2007 and 2008.  Sadly, even my basic CV .docx doesn't convert correctly between the Mac and Windows versions of Office.  

- the same "theme" support that Office 2007 has--font themes, and most importantly, colour themes.  The colours in my Office 2007 .xlsx files never come across correctly (most come across as grey), and it is the cause of much pain and cursing :(

- the gallery elements animate too slowly.  I actually find myself clicking on "charts" and waiting for it to finish animating so i can choose an option on the right-hand side of the list..

thanks!

-b</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use Office 2007 at work, and a Mac Office 2008  at home.  my feature requests:  </p>
<p>- more consistency in formatting between 2007 and 2008.  Sadly, even my basic CV .docx doesn&#8217;t convert correctly between the Mac and Windows versions of Office.  </p>
<p>- the same &#8220;theme&#8221; support that Office 2007 has&#8211;font themes, and most importantly, colour themes.  The colours in my Office 2007 .xlsx files never come across correctly (most come across as grey), and it is the cause of much pain and cursing <img src='http://www.schwieb.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>- the gallery elements animate too slowly.  I actually find myself clicking on &#8220;charts&#8221; and waiting for it to finish animating so i can choose an option on the right-hand side of the list..</p>
<p>thanks!</p>
<p>-b</p>
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		<title>By: Victor Riley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victor Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 05:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use PowerPoint and Excel as a kind of portable usability lab. I develop partially- or fully-interactive UI prototypes in PowerPoint, using VBA to adjust object properties (text box values, indicator light colors, etc.) or change slides in response to user inputs. I also use VBA to record user inputs made in PPT to Excel along with time tags. This lets me record user actions, calculate task times and response intervals, detect errors, and so forth. Replicating the object model to the point where I can do this seamlessly between platforms (including cross-application communication: controlling Excel from PPT, copying from Excel to Word, etc.) is essential for this kind of work. I'd also like to second the call for recordability - it's a very fast way to get started on a subroutine when you aren't sure what the VBA syntax should be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use PowerPoint and Excel as a kind of portable usability lab. I develop partially- or fully-interactive UI prototypes in PowerPoint, using VBA to adjust object properties (text box values, indicator light colors, etc.) or change slides in response to user inputs. I also use VBA to record user inputs made in PPT to Excel along with time tags. This lets me record user actions, calculate task times and response intervals, detect errors, and so forth. Replicating the object model to the point where I can do this seamlessly between platforms (including cross-application communication: controlling Excel from PPT, copying from Excel to Word, etc.) is essential for this kind of work. I&#8217;d also like to second the call for recordability - it&#8217;s a very fast way to get started on a subroutine when you aren&#8217;t sure what the VBA syntax should be.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 05:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I need a macro to do:
Edit -&#62; Paste Special -&#62; Unformatted Text

and

A key combination to automatically type a date.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need a macro to do:<br />
Edit -&gt; Paste Special -&gt; Unformatted Text</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>A key combination to automatically type a date.</p>
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		<title>By: Apple Briefs &#124; Office Notes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apple Briefs &#124; Office Notes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 03:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] announced this week that VBA (Visual Basic for Applications) will be making a return to Mac Office sometime [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 03:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My condolences on your being tasked with adding VBA back in. My BIASED opinion is that there are better tools out there for writing custom apps than using Excel as a database...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My condolences on your being tasked with adding VBA back in. My BIASED opinion is that there are better tools out there for writing custom apps than using Excel as a database&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: w</title>
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		<dc:creator>w</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 02:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll add my take on the lack of VBA too. I have written and continue to write custom user forms, add-ins and functions in Excel that work on both Mac and PC. The lack of VBA in Office 2008 means that any upgrade to my multiple licenses of Office will be to Open Office, not 2008. I still can't understand how anyone at MS seriously thought that offering up Applescript could in any way allow us to write cross platform solutions or even custom formulas that ran on a Mac only. Maybe if enough of us keep telling them that tney made a really dumb decision that is driving business away from them, they may eventually start to listen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll add my take on the lack of VBA too. I have written and continue to write custom user forms, add-ins and functions in Excel that work on both Mac and PC. The lack of VBA in Office 2008 means that any upgrade to my multiple licenses of Office will be to Open Office, not 2008. I still can&#8217;t understand how anyone at MS seriously thought that offering up Applescript could in any way allow us to write cross platform solutions or even custom formulas that ran on a Mac only. Maybe if enough of us keep telling them that tney made a really dumb decision that is driving business away from them, they may eventually start to listen?</p>
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